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bobfresco Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - "God doesnt want YOU to go to hell"cool...and what god wants god gets (since he's all powerful)...sweet, i'm going to heaven after all..thanks Laras, my mind is at rest.see you in heaven buddy!

Laras420 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - God can not allow evil to go on forever, firstly us humans would ultimately destroy ourselves with our sin. War is created from Sin, everything that is damaged by Greed was created by sin, adultery affects many, partners, children, povety. Murdering hearts in Power see no wrong killing thousands of innocent people if its a means to an end, hate is all around us, the effects are unavoidable. Just watch the news, you think everyone is having a good time here?Sin has to be wiped out

Laras420 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - contAnd sin will be wiped out, we dont know when, but when it happens if we havent made peace with God like a humble child when he decides enough is enough we are screwed.You have any idea how Heaven rejoices when a soul is saved? Every single one is precious.I would just hate for you to meet your maker sitting in limbo and thinking bugger why didnt i listen.

Laras420 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - well ya better do the sinner prayers then :-P

Laras420 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - You are so in denial, you don't even have to admit it to me lol, just have a chat with God, but mention Jesus first cos ya gonna need him initally, and by all means keep the doubting Thomas persona if you want for appearane sake. Only thing that matters is you start talking to him willingly, if ya sincere he will do the rest.

bobfresco Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - you know...most of the time I try to ask sensible questions, and some times I say stuff like "i can't wait to goto hell" cuz i know it winds christians up that it's possible to not be scared......but occasionaly I have to sit back and just laugh and think what on earth is all this utter bullshit you believe in...i mean, do you realise that atheists and agnostics are laughing so hard at you...we think so little of you...it's nothing personal...i'm sure you're a nice guy Laras,...but jeez...

bobfresco Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - sorry..i meant, "...we think so little of YOUR BELIEFS"

Laras420 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - I dont care if you all think so little of me, its not your opinion of me that makes me reply to you or anyone to be honest, but I think its such a waste of Gods creation I just cant help myself :-)

Laras420 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Oh but I do care you think so little of Jesus cos he's the only one with the key.

TheHolySpirit Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - True love is UNCONDITIONAL. ie. no need for the recipient to do anything such as surrendering or believing.

bobfresco Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - ye..i corrected myself..i meant to say i think very little of your RELIGIOUS BELIEFS..you're probably a real nice guy who'd i'd have a beer with and have a wonderful chat with....but i think you're beleifs are batshit crazy...jesus has your key...not mine...i think eternal life...although interesting for the first trillion years...is illogical...the idea of closure and none-existence is the only way out.

Laras420 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - LOL I'm a chick , don't know bout the beer seems to bloats but I'd challenge ya to a game of pool LOL ( last time I beat the beer drinkers LOL LOL LOL) Okay so it helps LOL

solarisgalrocks Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Jacena, and exactly how does science and education refute God?

Laras420 Says:

Nov 23, 2008 - Sin cannot enter heaven, so unless you accept Jesus and what he did to be cleansed ( and i might add daily for me lol ) you cannot enter heaven.

TheHolySpirit Says:

Nov 23, 2008 - Sounds like blackmail to me.

Laras420 Says:

Nov 23, 2008 - No blackmail would suggest you have no choice, you are free to determine your own fate....

TheHolySpirit Says:

Nov 23, 2008 - Sounds like a false dilemma to me.

Laras420 Says:

Nov 23, 2008 - yes you are in one arent you

TheHolySpirit Says:

Nov 23, 2008 - No, I'm not in a false dilemma.. That's the point. You live inside the constraints of a belief system that you have chosen to have faith in which gives you a stark choice between two paths (which is fine), albeit a bit of a catch-22 situation if you ask me. Because I don't share your faith in that particular system which persecutes people who CHOOSE to live outside of it as I do, I therefore have a completely free choice (my own) to believe whatever I want. Maybe I'm already in heaven. ;p

Laras420 Says:

Nov 23, 2008 - Maybe you are, make the most of it, your eternity could be far different without Jesus being your redeemer

Jacena Says:

Nov 23, 2008 - In every single way ~The more education / more intelligent you are, the less likely you are to believe in a god, as you've done the research and realized the contradictions and flaws of both holy books, and other scripture.This is why 93% of scientists don't share your beliefs, as they've studied the lack of proof, which is always subjective to the individual.Do some research yourself and you'll see it's all based on having faith, which is belief in something without reason or evidence.

solarisgalrocks Says:

Nov 23, 2008 - Jacena, I really don't think so. How does the bible contradict science? By the way, I hold degrees from two prestigious private universities in the United States with majors in mathematics, law, computer science and business.

Jacena Says:

Nov 23, 2008 - If you can display un-subjective evidence that the Bible is true (walking on water, a talking burning bush, living in a whale for 3 days, talking snakes, dinosaurs on a big boat, a 6000 year old universe, the sun revolves around the flat earth, targeted plagues, and of course zombie Jesus) as well as your morals being higher than god's (mass genocide and murder, racism, slavery)Science and philosophy literally bury it.The quickest way to raise questions is through reading the Bible itself.

solarisgalrocks Says:

Nov 23, 2008 - Unsubjective evidence that the bible is true? Well, can you imagine if everyone "loved thy neighbor as thyself"?? How great do you think this world would be? God's law is perfect - it has the power to change lives. Dinosaurs on boats - never heard of that. True Christians dont boast having higher morals than anyone, that's why Jesus died for our sins. And as for people committing mass genocide, racism - anyone can call themselves Christians but, "faith without works is dead"James 2:20

Jacena Says:

Nov 24, 2008 - From how you speak, you hardly sound as if you've been through much school yourself.By saying god's law is perfect, you really just dug yourself a gigantic hole there. Read your bible a bit more thoroughly please?